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Q: Researchers are making huge strides in understanding how the human brain works. Do you think this will and should affect how we teach our children?

Question 14 in a series answered by Dr. David Grove, Ph.D.  More information about Dr. Grove is featured at the end of each post.

Q: Researchers are making huge strides in understanding how the human brain works. Do you think this will and should affect how we teach our children?

A: Absolutely. One thing we have found out is that multi-modal input is the most powerful teaching tool. Most schools are trying to move towards that. Watch, do, teach.

  • Tomorrow’s Question: My favorite idea you gave us was to get a separate set of textbooks to have at home. It seemed so simple, but made the biggest difference. What is your personal favorite tip for disorganized students?

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  • Dr. David Grove Ph.D., diagnosed our oldest son with ADHD, OCD and dysgraphia in 2000, and continued with his behavioral therapy until he went off to college in 2010. There are not words to express how my family feels about Dr. Grove. He took a family of quirky, obsessive, attention-lacking creative types and made us realize how normal we really are, or more accurately, how there is “no such thing as normal.” Our happiness, contentment and general healthy outlook can be attributed to his ongoing guidance and support.

  • Dr. Grove is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist in private practice and does not accept new patients. He also teaches college courses, works with children at a residential treatment facility, leads outpatient chemical dependency groups, and is an area school psychologist, a Head Start consultant, director of a Community Mental Health Center, and a forensic psychologist. He was selected as a finalist for the Psychologist of the Year award, honored as a Diplomat by the American Board of Psychological Specialties, and identified as an expert in Forensic Psychology. Dr. Grove also received the Volunteer of the Year Award by the Heartland Area Education Agency for his efforts to educate professionals in the area of cross-cultural counseling. This, in my mind, puts him squarely in the category of ‘expert’.
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I recently interviewed teachers about students’ organization skills. When I asked why some students weren’t turning in homework or completing assignments, one teacher responded, “The lazy ones don’t do their work, there’s nothing I can do about that.” What are your thoughts on that statement?

Question 13 in a series answered by Dr. David Grove, Ph.D.  More information about Dr. Grove is featured at the end of each post.

Q: I recently interviewed teachers about students’ organization skills. When I asked why some students weren’t turning in homework or completing assignments, one teacher responded, “The lazy ones don’t do their work, there’s nothing I can do about that.” What are your thoughts on that statement?

A: Hmm, to put it as mildly as I can, that is crap. Let’s look at a theory here. Theories do one of four things: They describe, explain, predict or control. The simplest theory is one that just gives something a name. So this teacher’s theory is called “laziness.” It is the simplest way to solve a problem. Call it “lazy,” period. Your work here is done. In essence, it usually ends up describing the person who has the theory. “When I don’t like doing something, I don’t do it and I call myself lazy.” That’s a projection of the teacher’s internal structure.

But the truth is, labeling doesn’t help the teacher or the student. Once you’ve classified him as lazy, then what do you do? How do you de-lazy someone? A theory that leads to some intervention — now there’s a theory you can use. So if you actually want to work with someone, you need to come up with a different theory. It could be that the child is bored. It could be that he doesn’t learn through that channel. It could be that research-based assignments are inappropriate for this person. He might spend three hours looking for the answers and never learning them because he’s tired from trying to figure out where they are — versus if he was just given the answers in the beginning, he could have been studying them.

It could be all kinds of different reasons. But labeling something is the weakest theory. When someone says a child is lazy, I ask, “What is your intended intervention for that? If that is your theory of what the problem is, how are you going to de-lazy that child?” Let’s try to think of some theories that can lead to an intervention to actually help the child.

  • Tomorrow’s Question: Researchers are making huge strides in understanding how the human brain works. Do you think this will and should affect how we teach our children?

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  • Dr. David Grove Ph.D., diagnosed our oldest son with ADHD, OCD and dysgraphia in 2000, and continued with his behavioral therapy until he went off to college in 2010. There are not words to express how my family feels about Dr. Grove. He took a family of quirky, obsessive, attention-lacking creative types and made us realize how normal we really are, or more accurately, how there is “no such thing as normal.” Our happiness, contentment and general healthy outlook can be attributed to his ongoing guidance and support.

  • Dr. Grove is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist in private practice and does not accept new patients. He also teaches college courses, works with children at a residential treatment facility, leads outpatient chemical dependency groups, and is an area school psychologist, a Head Start consultant, director of a Community Mental Health Center, and a forensic psychologist. He was selected as a finalist for the Psychologist of the Year award, honored as a Diplomat by the American Board of Psychological Specialties, and identified as an expert in Forensic Psychology. Dr. Grove also received the Volunteer of the Year Award by the Heartland Area Education Agency for his efforts to educate professionals in the area of cross-cultural counseling. This, in my mind, puts him squarely in the category of ‘expert’.
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Q: I hear so many parents say that giving children drugs for anxiety, ADHD, OCD, and other disorders “alters the child’s true self,” or “takes away from what makes a child special or unique.” Other parents point to the idea that Einstein had OCD or ADHD, and if he had been medicated we would have missed out on all that profound knowledge. Do ADD or anti-anxiety meds really change the personality or intelligence of a person? Are we taking geniuses away from society by medicating people with these disorders?

Question 12 in a series answered by Dr. David Grove, Ph.D.  More information about Dr. Grove is featured at the end of each post.

Q: I hear so many parents say that giving children drugs for anxiety, ADHD, OCD, and other disorders “alters the child’s true self,” or “takes away from what makes a child special or unique.” Other parents point to the idea that Einstein had OCD or ADHD, and if he had been medicated we would have missed out on all that profound knowledge. Do ADD or anti-anxiety meds really change the personality or intelligence of a person? Are we taking geniuses away from society by medicating people with these disorders?

A: I would have to say no. I believe the medications we use enhance an individual’s ability to use his or her intelligence in ways that are productive. Just think what Einstein could have done if he had been medicated. It wouldn’t have changed his thinking, it just would have clarified it for him.

Through clinical studies, we know there is clearly an improvement in a patient’s ability to use his or her intelligence with medication. And if using your intelligence — your cognitive ability — is important in the culture you live in, then it probably makes sense to enable people to do that. As long as the side effects of the medication don’t preclude that.

Most people can tolerate medication for anxiety, ADHD, and other learning disabilities quite well. I would say that the medications we are using enhance a person’s ability to utilize what they already have. It doesn’t make you any more of a different person — no more than if you drink a cup of coffee or if you work out to help you stay focused or calm. Unfortunately, the normal ways we use to change body chemistry, like working out and diet, don’t work for some people. So we add medication to help. It’s really no different than the changes some people get from exercise or diet changes. Every time you eat anything, you’re changing your body chemistry. Medication is essentially eating a combination of molecules that will enhance your ability to do certain things without hurting you in other areas.

Part of the problem is the massive drug scare with our culture — the notion that if you take drugs, it somehow makes you a bad or weak person. Which is not true, because you are perfectly fine except that you could contribute more to the welfare of others and live out your values better with medication.

I can use myself as an example. One of my deep values is to help people, listen to people, and work with people. So when I take medication, it allows me to do that more effectively without hurting other parts of my personality and intelligence. Back when I was digging ditches right out of high school, before I went to college — which is one of the experiences that made me want to go to college — I didn’t need ADD medication. I just needed to know how far to dig and how deep. But once I set foot in college, it became clear that I needed the medication in order to use my intelligence.

  • Tomorrow’s Question: I recently interviewed teachers about students’ organization skills. When I asked why some students weren’t turning in homework or completing assignments, one teacher responded, “The lazy ones don’t do their work, there’s nothing I can do about that.” What are your thoughts on that statement?

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  • Dr. David Grove Ph.D., diagnosed our oldest son with ADHD, OCD and dysgraphia in 2000, and continued with his behavioral therapy until he went off to college in 2010. There are not words to express how my family feels about Dr. Grove. He took a family of quirky, obsessive, attention-lacking creative types and made us realize how normal we really are, or more accurately, how there is “no such thing as normal.” Our happiness, contentment and general healthy outlook can be attributed to his ongoing guidance and support.

  • Dr. Grove is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist in private practice and does not accept new patients. He also teaches college courses, works with children at a residential treatment facility, leads outpatient chemical dependency groups, and is an area school psychologist, a Head Start consultant, director of a Community Mental Health Center, and a forensic psychologist. He was selected as a finalist for the Psychologist of the Year award, honored as a Diplomat by the American Board of Psychological Specialties, and identified as an expert in Forensic Psychology. Dr. Grove also received the Volunteer of the Year Award by the Heartland Area Education Agency for his efforts to educate professionals in the area of cross-cultural counseling. This, in my mind, puts him squarely in the category of ‘expert’.
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Q: What type of therapy do you use?

Question 11 in a series answered by Dr. David Grove, Ph.D.  More information about Dr. Grove is featured at the end of each post.

Q: What exactly do the tests you give show?

A: I use a mix of existential and cognitive behavior therapy. The existential part is to help each person develop the healthiest interpretation of what is happening to them and who they are. For example, when someone gets ready to give a speech and starts to feel anxiety, one person may interpret that as, “Oh my gosh, I’m lousy at this,” while another person may interpret it as, “I’m anxious, this must be really important; I hope I can stay focused.” So how you interpret how you feel determines how you react to it. The existential part is asking, “What does how you feel mean to you?” It’s how you choose to interpret a situation. You are responsible for who you are and how you react, even though you don’t have control over what happens to you.

The nuts-and-bolts part is cognitive behavioral therapy. How do you change the meaning you’ve attached to things? What is a better way to interpret a situation, and how are we going to change it? It is essentially your temperament. Some people are born with a real vigilance and notice lots of things. That can make you a nervous wreck or it can make you a very detailed person; it’s just how you manifest it.

  • Tomorrow’s Question: I hear so many parents say that giving children drugs for anxiety, ADHD, OCD, and other disorders “alters the child’s true self,” or “takes away from what makes a child special or unique.” Other parents point to the idea that Einstein had OCD or ADHD, and if he had been medicated we would have missed out on all that profound knowledge. Do ADD or anti-anxiety meds really change the personality or intelligence of a person? Are we taking geniuses away from society by medicating people with these disorders?

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  • Dr. David Grove Ph.D., diagnosed our oldest son with ADHD, OCD and dysgraphia in 2000, and continued with his behavioral therapy until he went off to college in 2010. There are not words to express how my family feels about Dr. Grove. He took a family of quirky, obsessive, attention-lacking creative types and made us realize how normal we really are, or more accurately, how there is “no such thing as normal.” Our happiness, contentment and general healthy outlook can be attributed to his ongoing guidance and support.

  • Dr. Grove is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist in private practice and does not accept new patients. He also teaches college courses, works with children at a residential treatment facility, leads outpatient chemical dependency groups, and is an area school psychologist, a Head Start consultant, director of a Community Mental Health Center, and a forensic psychologist. He was selected as a finalist for the Psychologist of the Year award, honored as a Diplomat by the American Board of Psychological Specialties, and identified as an expert in Forensic Psychology. Dr. Grove also received the Volunteer of the Year Award by the Heartland Area Education Agency for his efforts to educate professionals in the area of cross-cultural counseling. This, in my mind, puts him squarely in the category of ‘expert’.
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Q: What exactly do the tests you give show?

Question nine and ten in a series answered by Dr. David Grove, Ph.D.  More information about Dr. Grove is featured at the end of each post.

Q: What exactly do the tests you give show?

A: The first test I give is called a G-factor, a general intelligence level test. In order to identify a problem, let’s say a learning disability, there has to be a significant deviation of one particular skill set from your overall intellectual ability. Once I get a G-factor, that can be further analyzed for other subsets of ability and intelligence that are significantly below average. For example, if you have an IQ of 100 and all the other subsets are clustered plus or minus 5 points of 100, like 95 to 105, that is good. But if one of those subsets are an 80, you’ve got a problem.

Let’s say short-term memory comes back at 80, but your general level is 100. That is a significant difference and so it tells me that memory is going to cause you problems because you are not able to use your overall intelligence effectively, particularly for things that require short-term memory. The results are compared to an overall average, but mostly to your own intelligence factor.

Q: Do you have to be a psychologist to give these tests?

A: Yes. Only psychologists are qualified to give these tests. One thing that separates psychologists from other mental health professionals is that psychologists are trained to give standardized tests. None of the other professionals are licensed to do that.

  • Tomorrow’s Question: What type of therapy do you use?

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  • Dr. David Grove Ph.D., diagnosed our oldest son with ADHD, OCD and dysgraphia in 2000, and continued with his behavioral therapy until he went off to college in 2010. There are not words to express how my family feels about Dr. Grove. He took a family of quirky, obsessive, attention-lacking creative types and made us realize how normal we really are, or more accurately, how there is “no such thing as normal.” Our happiness, contentment and general healthy outlook can be attributed to his ongoing guidance and support.

  • Dr. Grove is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist in private practice and does not accept new patients. He also teaches college courses, works with children at a residential treatment facility, leads outpatient chemical dependency groups, and is an area school psychologist, a Head Start consultant, director of a Community Mental Health Center, and a forensic psychologist. He was selected as a finalist for the Psychologist of the Year award, honored as a Diplomat by the American Board of Psychological Specialties, and identified as an expert in Forensic Psychology. Dr. Grove also received the Volunteer of the Year Award by the Heartland Area Education Agency for his efforts to educate professionals in the area of cross-cultural counseling. This, in my mind, puts him squarely in the category of ‘expert’.
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